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Happy birthday and some random stuff!

Firstly: Happy birthday, Erin!

I posted a comment fic over at

shoneenclub in celebration. Shoneenclub. I love that name. ♥

In other Arashi news: New single. I'm tempted but I'm not going to shell out for the limited edition until I know if I like both songs.

Random stuff: The contest at

ohmiya. I have an entry for the drabble contest. I hope to have one for the short story contest, too. I would not object to any of you joining in. I AM JUST SAYIN'.

Also: The Road Trip AU. ♥♥♥ One day it shall be posted and that day shall be AWESOME.

Stripper Pole: I...I just can't post it when I'm so unhappy with the transition. It's written but I wrote it in two parts, the smut first and then the lead in. Hence my trouble joining them. I want to get it out of my head but I know that my 'i don't like it' is actually factual and not just my usual 'i don't like it' that I feel for my own work.

Finally: I have a fic rant.

I am really tempted to name names. I'm not going to but I am REALLY TEMPTED. Besides, you should be able to figure it out.

I don't mind OCs. I don't even mind Arashi marrying girls. I do mind if you create an OC for the sole purpose of getting yourself into your favorite's pants. MALE or female. PS. This includes killing off a character and replacing them with your OC. ESPECIALLY this. Especially this if you're trying to pretend that maybe your OC is the dead member. Jesus.

But far worse, in my opinion, is 'character' bashing. Look, if the best version of Ohno/Jun you can write involves making Nino a total jerk, Jun a total saint, and Ohno as uncaring about Nino's feelings because he loves Jun better, then you are NOT DOING YOUR PAIRING A FAVOR. You are saying Ohno/Jun can't work unless Nino is jerk.

It pisses me off that people would trash the very real love that every member of Arashi has for every other member.

But aside from that (and I say 'aside' but seriously, it's sort of rage inducing for me): When you base your fic off of 'this person is a jerk, therefore my favorite should have everything he wants' you are ignoring all the awesome about your pairing of choice. Let's go back to Ohno/Jun:

You know what is awesome about Ohno and Jun's relationship? Jun is gentle with Ohno in a way that he isn't with the others. Jun will whack at Ohno, sure, but he also touches him sweetly, taking his hand, putting his hands on his shoulders, leaning into him. You can see how much love and respect Jun has for Ohno and how much it means to him when Ohno approves of him. And Ohno talks about Jun and it's so...he respects him so much, he's so impressed with who Jun is, who he has become, and he's moved by Jun's warmth and gentleness. Plus he likes to fuck with him. Ohno fucks with Jun and totally gets away with it. He makes Jun laugh.

This is off the top of my head, too. I'm not a real fan of Ohno/Jun. There were times when Jun touching Ohno seemed to really get to Nino and I felt bad for Nino (obviously, Nino is a bit of a nutcase, and he makes up for his issues by inappropriately touching Jun on concert tours). I think that Ohno and Jun love each other but I think Jun had a point: They don't have a ton of stuff in common and they probably really WOULDN'T be friends if it hadn't been for Arashi. I think they would have NEEDED to be in Arashi (whereas, say, Nino and Sho would have got along no matter what) to come together. And despite all this I can write Ohno/Jun that doesn't involve making Nino a jerk and Jun the perfect man.

SO STOP IT. You'll make me utterly, utterly hate your pairing and I don't want to hate any Arashi/Arashi pairing.

PS. I don't object to Second-Generation Arashi but speaking as a woman with four kids whom I love and enjoy: YOU DON'T NEED A CHILD TO BE A REAL FAMILY/A PERFECT FAMILY. Wanting kids is one thing--Sho would want children no matter what his sexual orientation because that is who Sho is.

ETA: I feel like changing out icons but I hate looking for them. If you want to throw icons at me, please do.

ETA2: I just finally got into my e-mail. Do you know who is totally awesome? ZEL. a;lsdkfja;dfj OMG I LOVE HER FOREVER. I LOVE HER LIKE BURNING.

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*piles bricks on* Har har...wait.

MANY Ohmiya fics that bash Jun

This is why I almost never read Ohmiya fic that is not on my f-list. One of the first that I ever read that wasn't had Jun raping Nino during Ohno's solo. The term 'red rage' was pretty literal because ;alsdkjfk JUN LOVES NINO. Even thinking about it makes me want to scream. I thought 'if that's what the Ohmiya part of the larger fandom is going to do to Nino and Jun's bitchy, brotherly love I want NO PART'. I ranted about it for several many comments in some journal or other. (Either my deleted journal or else in the journal of some poor, dear friend.)

*pauses to wait for rage to abate*

That was a long pause! I actually don't mind anybody liking stories I don't--much like I don't care that there are people who think Arashi sucks in comparison to, say, Kanjani8 or SMAP. I love awful disaster movies with terrible 'science' and exploding head films; it's all a matter of personal taste. And if you don't think 'Arashi' the way you think of Arashi-on-Shukudai/VS.Arashi/whatever then I really so no reason at all to not enjoy whatever you're reading.

I tend to read and write 'actual' Arashi (or as much 'actual' as we get in interviews, backstage stuff, and the like) and part of that is because (unless it is crack or au) I really can't see them any other way. I can see them as younger, as older, as learning to love each other, as learning to let go of each other but I can't see them not loving each other and Arashi. When I think of the sacrifices that they've made for Arashi and, by extention, each other...well, it sort of takes my breath away. And to me the best I can do as I go into the world of RPS (which I found so disturbing before Arashi) is to handle that with care and respect.

Which is rather pretentious of me on some levels, I think, because you're right when you said fanfic is not based on reality. In the end what I write and what I read isn't any more real than anything else out there.

...I'm still mad about Jun-rapes-Nino. There was a fic where Nino BEAT UP TOMA during the Maou filming that drove me batshit. *claws eyes*

Finally, to make this comment even longer, I think one of the things that really got to me with this fic is the fact that there aren't a lot of Ohno/Jun fics out there. There's a lot of work that could be done with Ohno/Jun because they ARE sweet together and that sweetness doesn't have a thing to do with Nino or Ohmiya SK. It makes me sad for the pairing that one of the longest fics for it came from a place of betrayal and neglect and pain and anger rather than from the place where Ohno thinks Jun is a great and caring young man and Jun can't help but being weak vs Leader.

Crap. Now I have to go read 'Displacement' again.

I hope it's just a stage because, just skimming, the writing itself (for the most part) isn't bad. And it's a LONG Ohno/Jun story which...well, I will never complain about andy well-written, long stories centering around Arashi.

Ohmiya fans. *clings* I almost never look at Ohmiya stuff off the f-list because there are HORROR STORIES out there. Jun rapes Nino to Ohno's solo! Nino beats up Toma for touching Ohno! Nino tells off Sho and Aiba for the 'curiosity team' and not letting Ohno get some rest. THESE ARE NOT OUR PEOPLE, AKI. THEY ARE THE MENTAL EQUIVALENT OF BAD TOUCH.

Also: Road Trip AU! Remember Sho's recent shoot for Cut? ~~*♥*~~ A lot of us went on a spree over at

15th_moon. It's in a locked entry, though. Eventually it will be posted.

ETA: I are am not the able to be spelling today?

Edited 2009-04-08 04:54 (UTC)

I clicked in the first time because I just don't SEE a lot of Ohno/Jun. I thought 'well, if Ohno and Nino grow apart because they have different interests...'.

Also: You're smarter than I am.

One of the very best things that ever happened to me was happening across one of my old CCS fics being slammed. It hurt a lot at the time but even as I tried to defend it to myself I realized that I was just making excuses. I went into the Harry Potter fandom with better judgement about my writing and the firm idea that I had to abide by characterization supported by the text and not bring my own character hate (or love) into it.

Reading rants--like reading wank--can be a lot of fun if it's not naming names or getting personal. But then, I watched things like 'Seconds From Disaster' because I find train wrecks to be fascinating.

(I love Nino because he is such a weirdo at times and then he will turn around and be incredibly sweet or cute. I think it's a survival instinct. Pants Aiba in concert. Snuggle up to Jun or Sho and make big eyes at them. If this fails, cling to Leader. AND HE LIVES.)

♥ I am still planning to run away to Canada and marry the hell out of you.

You don't want to know this fic. Much like the Jun-rapes-Nino fic and the Nino-beats-up-Toma fic, this is one that you should skip unless you WANT to want to kill things.

adfja;ldfj;lj HI. I THINK I LOVE YOU. Seriously, you said everything I was trying to say and you did it so beautifully.

As I often say to Becky: YES. THIS.

would be able to watch Arashi fall apart calmly

I'm grabbing that part because I LOVE it. I mention elsewhere in the comments (I'm working my way UP the page) that each member has made a lot of sacrifices over the years for Arashi--and each other because the others ARE Arashi. They've given up having normal lives, normal privacy, they go without sleep and they work their asses off because they believe that Arashi is worth it. Even when they talk about retirement, about not being a BAND anymore they still talk about being Arashi, being together. They love Arashi.

Any fic that says that Arashi doesn't matter to MemberX because he loves Member Y and Member Y loves him makes me want to throw things at it. It is the most untrue and most uncharacteristic thing I can think of when it comes to this band. And I can find no way to excuse it, either.

...I'm sorry, that was rather rant-ish. Please just remember that I love your brain for your comment.

When I grow up I want to be as Zen as you are. TEACH ME, SENSEI.

And this fic...is not one of those awful dramatic fics that reads like a really cheesy soap opera. Those are fun, train-wreck reads. Like several other fics (from the Ohmiya side of the yard), this one makes me want to rant and not giggle.

You can always check the comms for it. You're bound to find something bad!

rofl I love your second comment so much. I have nothing against Jun/Ohno--it's just not a pairing I feel the way I do other pairings. And it's a bit of an underdog pairing--which is part of why I hate this fic. There's a metric fuckton of Ohmiya fic out there so you can find something other than the Jun-rapes-Nino-because-Nino-loves-Ohno-SO-MUCH fics. Ohno/Jun...doesn't have that much to choose from.

And Jun's face when he beams at his tiny, spacey Leader is so CUTE.

(There is no mercy and there IS NO GOD. Why must they follow the child's life? Who CARES? Unless the fic starts with the kids--like some of the awesome 2nd Gen fic out there--does anybody really care?)

I, I'm the opposite when it comes to a fic series. I prefer one-shots and tend to avoid long chapters, because that involves plot and planning, and not many people can pull that off. Well, that is. ^^;; So unless I know you're good at it, whether you take the time to plan it all out like Rosebear, or just go at it on the fly like Lazulisong (whom I stalk, yes I do), I... avoid them. Unless the flist recommends it. ^^;;;

*clings back* .... rape? Beating up Toma? Telling off the "curiosity" team!?? O-Omg this is total badtouch do not want. The first shouldn't even happen; the second, what, it's more likely for Ohno to suggest an OT3, with Nino dragging in a half-mortified, half-intrigued Toma; and Nino would never tell the curiosity team off. Maybe call them idiots, but he does that out of affection, dammit. >/

Ooooh. I'm not friends with her so I'll just have to wait patiently with everyone else. *___*

ETA: ♥ If it helps, I misspelled a word today, and I was teaching English lol.

YOU'RE A WHORE.

Okay, no. You and Meg (and Aki and Heather and other people) speak sense and give to me the gift of Earth Logic.

I won't let them make me hate baby/leader. I surived loving Ohmiya despite the plethora of crap those fans put forth, I can survive this.

I have discussed this endlessly in other places. I should dig up a link. Maybe I will come back and discuss it. Right now, it is very late.

BUT I HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS.

If you write 'Nino is Wound Too Tight and Jun LOVES Playing With That' I would read the hell out of it. I'm just sayin'.

I love your icon.

Also: YES. Yes to everything. ♥ This fic induced physical rage.

...oh my GOD. I only skimmed. a;lskdjf;ldjk I feel the need to write epic things now. I won't because I have a backlog but THE NEED IS THERE.

Also: It's not right if you care about the band dynamics and understand what makes them amazing.

This. Exactly, exactly this. Thank you for having an amazing brain. One day I want to be able to say things I mean without having to flail at the keyboard and then have smart people verbalize for me.

I hate nagging people to update fics! Even seeing it in somebody else's story makes me cranky--writing takes time and we don't live on the internet. A chapter a day isn't great if the writing is suffering.

Banners. You know, if Cyberpunk had a banner that would be awesome but, then again, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't spam a community with the banner, it would stay on your journal.

Nino's jealousy. Did you see the fic where he BEAT UP TOMA?

Aside from the FAIL FANDOM of that fic, though, I do think fandom can really sort of miss with Nino (it's like making Aiba an idiot >.< ). I think Jun compared him to a security camera once and that really worked for me because Nino does seem to be very watchful at times, he's mindful of himself. He can be a little emo and that just doesn't lend itself to violent outbursts--and he's not an emo crier. He's a tough kid and a bit of a stoic.

Combined with Jun's inner-marshmallow...yeah, Junior high girlfriends they are NOT.

...though I would read the hell out of a fic where they were JHS girlfriends. I suspect that there could be great awesome there.

I actually don't find a lot of long/chaptered fics for Arashi so I take chances because if I have something to read it means I am not left up to my own devices as far as entertaining myself goes.

He told them off FOR FEEDING OHNO INSTEAD OF LETTING HIM SLEEP. This is Ohno. The kid who went fishing instead of going to bed. Sho and Aiba stuffing food into him is the least of Nino's problems.

MmmthreesomeswithToma...

*toddles off to bed* Stupid timezones.

...though I would read the hell out of a fic where they were JHS girlfriends.

....I love you, and I kind of hate you. *kicks bunnies*

If you entertain yourself by writing, that's not a bad thing at all! *ducks* Seriously though, I hear you. Fandom mostly churns out one-shots, so chaptered fics can be a nice break. Too bad good ones are so hard to find. ^^;;

Sad case of a writer projecting her overzealous concern for Ohno onto Nino. >:

Someone needs to write Ohmiya/Toma fic. Now. *____*

*tucks you in*

Cogitating on Nino's neuroses; updates as data are available...

I know that JunToshi fic you're talking about and ...yeah, it's BAD. >.<" It's so bad that, when I read it (skimmed over it, after a bit), I just sat here, staring at my screen and basically going: "What? Did you try to write a Gackt/insert-random-j-rock-guy-here story and accidentally ended up fishing Arashi's names out of your pairing hat?"

Because this is what it looks like. :( And that's especially galling, because it's the only long JunToshi fic there is out there and it's my favourite pairing, except that these are not my guys, these aren't Jun and Ohno, they're ...I don't know, bad yaoi plot devices! >.<"

I read the first chapter and I already wanted to leave a comment about how those guys were rather OOC - and then I read the second chapter, and the chapter after that... and I realized that at that point, the only thing I could say would be "U R DOIN' IT WRONG!", which wouldn't have been criticism but wanking, so I decided not to say anything. W-which might have been not so good an idea, since the author has apparently done a sequel? -_-" Oh, dear.

I think the only good thing to come out of that fic is that it gives me a BURNING desire to write my own JunToshi multi-chapter fic, just to show all those fangirls who actually liked that fic that you CAN write Jun/Ohno fic, even with a bit of power-play between them, and NOT MAKE IT BAD. >.<"

Which of course is a rather large assumption - that I wouldn't make it bad, I mean - but I'm totally convinced that I could do better than this author, at least. v-v"

(Actually, I'm REALLY tempted to write that JunToshi fic. I shouldn't, because I haven't even finished the "Sho-gets-hit-by-a-spell-and-humps-everything-in-sight" multi-chapter fic, but - so, so, SO tempted. I have this whole thing in my head where Ohno and Nino retire to the bathtub together for a serious talk about Jun and Ohno's relationship, but then they end up sitting in the water and making high-pitched noises at the room and listening to their echo, until Jun comes barging in - mainly because Aiba and Sho were convinced Nino and Ohno were having sex and they were too polite/mentally scarred to open the door - and basically goes "it would be so easy to just drown you two right now" at them. XD)

I found it! Omg, it's ridiculous. I think it reads funny because she seems most convinced she's got Arashi SO DOWN. And the thing with the stairs WAS pretty hilarious. DRAMAHZ! *GASP* Her Ohno.... breaks my brain. I know it's Nino I'm supposed to find ridiculous (which I do), but Ohno going around being actually leader-like and dominant and TALKING IN FULL SENTENCES... Where does that come from, I wonder.

I think I'm lucky I got into fandom life basically in my pre-teens. I used to rage like you wouldn't believe. Now I'm just kind of "whatever" at that side of any fandom. My personal life is crappy enough, I'm not going to let even complete strangers in the internet get to me with their dumb. I still have occasional bouts of "GTFO OF MY HAPPY PLACE D: D: D:" but then I realize I can always just close the window. :Db

P.S. Your icon owns me. Nino/girl!boys ftw. :,D

NOW WHO'S BEING A BIG WHORE. :D :D

idk, just love all of Arashi/Arashi pairings; they're just too easy to not love..... ;_;

Exactly! It's just... asbnm-.kjhgfa!

I actually don't like Ohmiya as much since it is such a obvious pair. I like the twists and the insecurity in fanfics. So I only read Ohmiya of really good authors (like waxrose totally convinced me of it. I couldn't believe it!)

But what really is a ... strange/sad thing is the fact that she can write a fanfic with 16 murderous long chapters but she doesn't think about the plot/the characters at all. It's like she just uses their names and that's it. Nothing against OC (I like a few of them too as long as you actually can get the idea that this is Arashi...) but... *argh*

*giggles*

Would love to hear what they are! Mine tend to vary anywhere between "OMGTRULUV and "RIN BE REALISTIC!"

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