Happy birthday and some random stuff!
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Firstly: Happy birthday, Erin!
I posted a comment fic over at
shoneenclub in celebration. Shoneenclub. I love that name. ♥
In other Arashi news: New single. I'm tempted but I'm not going to shell out for the limited edition until I know if I like both songs.
Random stuff: The contest at
ohmiya. I have an entry for the drabble contest. I hope to have one for the short story contest, too. I would not object to any of you joining in. I AM JUST SAYIN'.
Also: The Road Trip AU. ♥♥♥ One day it shall be posted and that day shall be AWESOME.
Stripper Pole: I...I just can't post it when I'm so unhappy with the transition. It's written but I wrote it in two parts, the smut first and then the lead in. Hence my trouble joining them. I want to get it out of my head but I know that my 'i don't like it' is actually factual and not just my usual 'i don't like it' that I feel for my own work.
Finally: I have a fic rant.
I am really tempted to name names. I'm not going to but I am REALLY TEMPTED. Besides, you should be able to figure it out.
I don't mind OCs. I don't even mind Arashi marrying girls. I do mind if you create an OC for the sole purpose of getting yourself into your favorite's pants. MALE or female. PS. This includes killing off a character and replacing them with your OC. ESPECIALLY this. Especially this if you're trying to pretend that maybe your OC is the dead member. Jesus.
But far worse, in my opinion, is 'character' bashing. Look, if the best version of Ohno/Jun you can write involves making Nino a total jerk, Jun a total saint, and Ohno as uncaring about Nino's feelings because he loves Jun better, then you are NOT DOING YOUR PAIRING A FAVOR. You are saying Ohno/Jun can't work unless Nino is jerk.
It pisses me off that people would trash the very real love that every member of Arashi has for every other member.
But aside from that (and I say 'aside' but seriously, it's sort of rage inducing for me): When you base your fic off of 'this person is a jerk, therefore my favorite should have everything he wants' you are ignoring all the awesome about your pairing of choice. Let's go back to Ohno/Jun:
You know what is awesome about Ohno and Jun's relationship? Jun is gentle with Ohno in a way that he isn't with the others. Jun will whack at Ohno, sure, but he also touches him sweetly, taking his hand, putting his hands on his shoulders, leaning into him. You can see how much love and respect Jun has for Ohno and how much it means to him when Ohno approves of him. And Ohno talks about Jun and it's so...he respects him so much, he's so impressed with who Jun is, who he has become, and he's moved by Jun's warmth and gentleness. Plus he likes to fuck with him. Ohno fucks with Jun and totally gets away with it. He makes Jun laugh.
This is off the top of my head, too. I'm not a real fan of Ohno/Jun. There were times when Jun touching Ohno seemed to really get to Nino and I felt bad for Nino (obviously, Nino is a bit of a nutcase, and he makes up for his issues by inappropriately touching Jun on concert tours). I think that Ohno and Jun love each other but I think Jun had a point: They don't have a ton of stuff in common and they probably really WOULDN'T be friends if it hadn't been for Arashi. I think they would have NEEDED to be in Arashi (whereas, say, Nino and Sho would have got along no matter what) to come together. And despite all this I can write Ohno/Jun that doesn't involve making Nino a jerk and Jun the perfect man.
SO STOP IT. You'll make me utterly, utterly hate your pairing and I don't want to hate any Arashi/Arashi pairing.
PS. I don't object to Second-Generation Arashi but speaking as a woman with four kids whom I love and enjoy: YOU DON'T NEED A CHILD TO BE A REAL FAMILY/A PERFECT FAMILY. Wanting kids is one thing--Sho would want children no matter what his sexual orientation because that is who Sho is.
ETA: I feel like changing out icons but I hate looking for them. If you want to throw icons at me, please do.
ETA2: I just finally got into my e-mail. Do you know who is totally awesome? ZEL. a;lsdkfja;dfj OMG I LOVE HER FOREVER. I LOVE HER LIKE BURNING.
I posted a comment fic over at
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In other Arashi news: New single. I'm tempted but I'm not going to shell out for the limited edition until I know if I like both songs.
Random stuff: The contest at
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
Also: The Road Trip AU. ♥♥♥ One day it shall be posted and that day shall be AWESOME.
Stripper Pole: I...I just can't post it when I'm so unhappy with the transition. It's written but I wrote it in two parts, the smut first and then the lead in. Hence my trouble joining them. I want to get it out of my head but I know that my 'i don't like it' is actually factual and not just my usual 'i don't like it' that I feel for my own work.
Finally: I have a fic rant.
I am really tempted to name names. I'm not going to but I am REALLY TEMPTED. Besides, you should be able to figure it out.
I don't mind OCs. I don't even mind Arashi marrying girls. I do mind if you create an OC for the sole purpose of getting yourself into your favorite's pants. MALE or female. PS. This includes killing off a character and replacing them with your OC. ESPECIALLY this. Especially this if you're trying to pretend that maybe your OC is the dead member. Jesus.
But far worse, in my opinion, is 'character' bashing. Look, if the best version of Ohno/Jun you can write involves making Nino a total jerk, Jun a total saint, and Ohno as uncaring about Nino's feelings because he loves Jun better, then you are NOT DOING YOUR PAIRING A FAVOR. You are saying Ohno/Jun can't work unless Nino is jerk.
It pisses me off that people would trash the very real love that every member of Arashi has for every other member.
But aside from that (and I say 'aside' but seriously, it's sort of rage inducing for me): When you base your fic off of 'this person is a jerk, therefore my favorite should have everything he wants' you are ignoring all the awesome about your pairing of choice. Let's go back to Ohno/Jun:
You know what is awesome about Ohno and Jun's relationship? Jun is gentle with Ohno in a way that he isn't with the others. Jun will whack at Ohno, sure, but he also touches him sweetly, taking his hand, putting his hands on his shoulders, leaning into him. You can see how much love and respect Jun has for Ohno and how much it means to him when Ohno approves of him. And Ohno talks about Jun and it's so...he respects him so much, he's so impressed with who Jun is, who he has become, and he's moved by Jun's warmth and gentleness. Plus he likes to fuck with him. Ohno fucks with Jun and totally gets away with it. He makes Jun laugh.
This is off the top of my head, too. I'm not a real fan of Ohno/Jun. There were times when Jun touching Ohno seemed to really get to Nino and I felt bad for Nino (obviously, Nino is a bit of a nutcase, and he makes up for his issues by inappropriately touching Jun on concert tours). I think that Ohno and Jun love each other but I think Jun had a point: They don't have a ton of stuff in common and they probably really WOULDN'T be friends if it hadn't been for Arashi. I think they would have NEEDED to be in Arashi (whereas, say, Nino and Sho would have got along no matter what) to come together. And despite all this I can write Ohno/Jun that doesn't involve making Nino a jerk and Jun the perfect man.
SO STOP IT. You'll make me utterly, utterly hate your pairing and I don't want to hate any Arashi/Arashi pairing.
PS. I don't object to Second-Generation Arashi but speaking as a woman with four kids whom I love and enjoy: YOU DON'T NEED A CHILD TO BE A REAL FAMILY/A PERFECT FAMILY. Wanting kids is one thing--Sho would want children no matter what his sexual orientation because that is who Sho is.
ETA: I feel like changing out icons but I hate looking for them. If you want to throw icons at me, please do.
ETA2: I just finally got into my e-mail. Do you know who is totally awesome? ZEL. a;lsdkfja;dfj OMG I LOVE HER FOREVER. I LOVE HER LIKE BURNING.
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Date: 2009-04-08 08:35 am (UTC)Because this is what it looks like. :( And that's especially galling, because it's the only long JunToshi fic there is out there and it's my favourite pairing, except that these are not my guys, these aren't Jun and Ohno, they're ...I don't know, bad yaoi plot devices! >.<"
I read the first chapter and I already wanted to leave a comment about how those guys were rather OOC - and then I read the second chapter, and the chapter after that... and I realized that at that point, the only thing I could say would be "U R DOIN' IT WRONG!", which wouldn't have been criticism but wanking, so I decided not to say anything. W-which might have been not so good an idea, since the author has apparently done a sequel? -_-" Oh, dear.
I think the only good thing to come out of that fic is that it gives me a BURNING desire to write my own JunToshi multi-chapter fic, just to show all those fangirls who actually liked that fic that you CAN write Jun/Ohno fic, even with a bit of power-play between them, and NOT MAKE IT BAD. >.<"
Which of course is a rather large assumption - that I wouldn't make it bad, I mean - but I'm totally convinced that I could do better than this author, at least. v-v"
(Actually, I'm REALLY tempted to write that JunToshi fic. I shouldn't, because I haven't even finished the "Sho-gets-hit-by-a-spell-and-humps-everything-in-sight" multi-chapter fic, but - so, so, SO tempted. I have this whole thing in my head where Ohno and Nino retire to the bathtub together for a serious talk about Jun and Ohno's relationship, but then they end up sitting in the water and making high-pitched noises at the room and listening to their echo, until Jun comes barging in - mainly because Aiba and Sho were convinced Nino and Ohno were having sex and they were too polite/mentally scarred to open the door - and basically goes "it would be so easy to just drown you two right now" at them. XD)
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Date: 2009-04-08 05:07 pm (UTC)If you wrote it, I would totally read the hell out of it. Just sayin'. *___*
That said, I really wish someone would leave that girl a really really REALLY long comment detailing just how badly she has botched up Arashi's characters. And I don't mean just Nino either. Jun and Ohno are pretty much assholes in the fic as well which I find kinda strange considering the girl is trying to promote Juntoshi. Of course, I'm too chicken to do it myself. XD But I really hope someone else would do it. Because that girl seriously deserves a verbal smackdown. It'll be good for her.
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Date: 2009-04-09 07:54 am (UTC)I would be tempted to leave a long comment, except... well, there'd be so much to say about the characterization, none of it positive, and the problem is that it's so EASY to get self-righteous when doing that (a vice I have to admit I can be sadly weak against without meaning to) and start critizing the author instead of the author's works; and I've seen bad things coming out of that. :( So I'm really reluctant when it comes to smackdowns like that. *sigh*
(I do hope someone else will leave a comment like that... though hopefully, the rest of us wouldn't get the idea of jumping on the bandwaggon and laying into her as well. ^^")
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Date: 2009-04-09 05:26 pm (UTC)EXACTLY. See, that's what I'm afraid of. I'm scared my fangirl rage might make me come off as a bitch (which, you know, I totally could be) when I really don't mean to (well, mostly, anyway) because I can rant for hours and hours on stuff. I'm not the most tactful person sometimes. But at the same time, I really don't like seeing fic like this out there because it gives fans the wrong impression of Arashi--Arashi, who have had a reputation for getting along well ever since they debuted. Also, to see that people like this fic and encourage the author to keep going just... NO.
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Date: 2009-04-09 07:15 am (UTC)O.O OMG, where is this fic? I must read it.
Also, your JunToshi fic sounds very, very entertaining.
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Date: 2009-04-09 07:56 am (UTC)