I'm really glad you liked this. I like to be loved! ♥
And we like loving you! &hearts &hearts (...And now I've got "I was made for loving you, baby" stuck in my head... *headdesk*)
Anyway!
I still see it as something sweet, something graceful, something soft and still fun, a place where they can rest together.
THIS. Especially that last one. I mean, I really enjoy power-play in fiction and I find it interesting to think of Jun and Ohno in those terms, because Ohno is this leader who's honestly really good at leading, who is respected and acknowledged as the leader, but who doesn't actually feel any need to lead and would rather let others take charge in group situations as long as they leave him be like he is, while Jun is the youngest of the group who, in the beginning, was set up to be anything but a leader, but who quickly became uncomfortable with his "comedic"/"baby" role and longed to have people look at him and acknowledge him for the person he is, and who also really enjoys being in charge of stuff and organize stuff for everyone, which gives a very interesting contrast between "what they're supposed to be/what they can be" and "what they are/what they enjoy being"; but even when I write/imagine them being in such a power-play dynamic, the thing I always come back to is this idea that they'd... find a sense of peace in each other. They wouldn't have a dynamic like Ohno and Nino, who basically live in each other's mind and who'd be as much about being wacky and weird together as about being sweet and loving; or a dynamic like Nino and Sho, with Sho gentling Nino and appreciating him for the good person he truly is and Nino pushing Sho forwards and giving him a space where he can be as silly and faily as he wants to be; or a dynamic like Jun and Aiba, with Aiba making Jun open up and smile and Jun taking care of Aiba and protecting him. But they would have a dynamic that would be all about Jun relishing to take care of his Leader and make sure that everything in his life is in order and Ohno giving Jun his absolute trust and the freedom to be who he truly is, and it would be a really peaceful relationship, with an underlying love and sweetness even when Jun complained about Ohno being burned to a crisp again and Ohno just ignored him to do whatever he wanted.
JunToshi does not have to diminish the bonds between Ohno and Nino. It doesn't have to ignore Jun's history with Nino (and Aiba) and his internal squishy-ness for his band. They can be together without it isolating them from Arashi, without it being set apart from Arashi.
That's what really frustrates me about some of the JunToshi stories. I mean, I've read others as well, those that didn't forget Arashi, just as I've read some Jun/Aiba stories that completely ignored that they were in a band together with those other three guys, but this need to ...give an excuse for putting Jun with Ohno by making Nino into a total bastard, or by making the two of them be hated by the rest of the band so that they have the exclusiveness of being a pairing - really, fanfic writers? Really? Because honestly: a.) they're possibly the most incestuous group in Johnny's (excluding TOKIO, perhaps) and being involved with one of them will always mean having all the others up in your business anyway, and b.) romantic love isn't the be all and end all of love. There are dozens of ways in which one human being can love another and no one way of loving negates or cancels out the others. Ohno can love Jun romantically and still be Nino's soulmate and have freaky telepathy going on with him. Jun can love Ohno romantically and still be Aiba's best friend, and both of them can be in love with each other and still think that Sho's the best thing since the invention of chopsticks. (Also, seriously: Why would anyone EVER willingly deprive themselves of the chance to write Nino being a horrible little prankster towards Jun by calling his cellphone just as he's about to have sex with Ohno, because those two little freaks have a mind-link that tells Nino exactly when the most inopportune moment to interrupt is?)
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Date: 2010-08-14 08:11 pm (UTC)And we like loving you! &hearts &hearts
(...And now I've got "I was made for loving you, baby" stuck in my head... *headdesk*)
Anyway!
I still see it as something sweet, something graceful, something soft and still fun, a place where they can rest together.
THIS. Especially that last one. I mean, I really enjoy power-play in fiction and I find it interesting to think of Jun and Ohno in those terms, because Ohno is this leader who's honestly really good at leading, who is respected and acknowledged as the leader, but who doesn't actually feel any need to lead and would rather let others take charge in group situations as long as they leave him be like he is, while Jun is the youngest of the group who, in the beginning, was set up to be anything but a leader, but who quickly became uncomfortable with his "comedic"/"baby" role and longed to have people look at him and acknowledge him for the person he is, and who also really enjoys being in charge of stuff and organize stuff for everyone, which gives a very interesting contrast between "what they're supposed to be/what they can be" and "what they are/what they enjoy being"; but even when I write/imagine them being in such a power-play dynamic, the thing I always come back to is this idea that they'd... find a sense of peace in each other.
They wouldn't have a dynamic like Ohno and Nino, who basically live in each other's mind and who'd be as much about being wacky and weird together as about being sweet and loving; or a dynamic like Nino and Sho, with Sho gentling Nino and appreciating him for the good person he truly is and Nino pushing Sho forwards and giving him a space where he can be as silly and faily as he wants to be; or a dynamic like Jun and Aiba, with Aiba making Jun open up and smile and Jun taking care of Aiba and protecting him. But they would have a dynamic that would be all about Jun relishing to take care of his Leader and make sure that everything in his life is in order and Ohno giving Jun his absolute trust and the freedom to be who he truly is, and it would be a really peaceful relationship, with an underlying love and sweetness even when Jun complained about Ohno being burned to a crisp again and Ohno just ignored him to do whatever he wanted.
JunToshi does not have to diminish the bonds between Ohno and Nino. It doesn't have to ignore Jun's history with Nino (and Aiba) and his internal squishy-ness for his band. They can be together without it isolating them from Arashi, without it being set apart from Arashi.
That's what really frustrates me about some of the JunToshi stories. I mean, I've read others as well, those that didn't forget Arashi, just as I've read some Jun/Aiba stories that completely ignored that they were in a band together with those other three guys, but this need to ...give an excuse for putting Jun with Ohno by making Nino into a total bastard, or by making the two of them be hated by the rest of the band so that they have the exclusiveness of being a pairing - really, fanfic writers? Really? Because honestly: a.) they're possibly the most incestuous group in Johnny's (excluding TOKIO, perhaps) and being involved with one of them will always mean having all the others up in your business anyway, and b.) romantic love isn't the be all and end all of love. There are dozens of ways in which one human being can love another and no one way of loving negates or cancels out the others. Ohno can love Jun romantically and still be Nino's soulmate and have freaky telepathy going on with him. Jun can love Ohno romantically and still be Aiba's best friend, and both of them can be in love with each other and still think that Sho's the best thing since the invention of chopsticks.
(Also, seriously: Why would anyone EVER willingly deprive themselves of the chance to write Nino being a horrible little prankster towards Jun by calling his cellphone just as he's about to have sex with Ohno, because those two little freaks have a mind-link that tells Nino exactly when the most inopportune moment to interrupt is?)