Happy birthday and some random stuff!
Apr. 5th, 2009 10:05 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Firstly: Happy birthday, Erin!
I posted a comment fic over at
shoneenclub in celebration. Shoneenclub. I love that name. ♥
In other Arashi news: New single. I'm tempted but I'm not going to shell out for the limited edition until I know if I like both songs.
Random stuff: The contest at
ohmiya. I have an entry for the drabble contest. I hope to have one for the short story contest, too. I would not object to any of you joining in. I AM JUST SAYIN'.
Also: The Road Trip AU. ♥♥♥ One day it shall be posted and that day shall be AWESOME.
Stripper Pole: I...I just can't post it when I'm so unhappy with the transition. It's written but I wrote it in two parts, the smut first and then the lead in. Hence my trouble joining them. I want to get it out of my head but I know that my 'i don't like it' is actually factual and not just my usual 'i don't like it' that I feel for my own work.
Finally: I have a fic rant.
I am really tempted to name names. I'm not going to but I am REALLY TEMPTED. Besides, you should be able to figure it out.
I don't mind OCs. I don't even mind Arashi marrying girls. I do mind if you create an OC for the sole purpose of getting yourself into your favorite's pants. MALE or female. PS. This includes killing off a character and replacing them with your OC. ESPECIALLY this. Especially this if you're trying to pretend that maybe your OC is the dead member. Jesus.
But far worse, in my opinion, is 'character' bashing. Look, if the best version of Ohno/Jun you can write involves making Nino a total jerk, Jun a total saint, and Ohno as uncaring about Nino's feelings because he loves Jun better, then you are NOT DOING YOUR PAIRING A FAVOR. You are saying Ohno/Jun can't work unless Nino is jerk.
It pisses me off that people would trash the very real love that every member of Arashi has for every other member.
But aside from that (and I say 'aside' but seriously, it's sort of rage inducing for me): When you base your fic off of 'this person is a jerk, therefore my favorite should have everything he wants' you are ignoring all the awesome about your pairing of choice. Let's go back to Ohno/Jun:
You know what is awesome about Ohno and Jun's relationship? Jun is gentle with Ohno in a way that he isn't with the others. Jun will whack at Ohno, sure, but he also touches him sweetly, taking his hand, putting his hands on his shoulders, leaning into him. You can see how much love and respect Jun has for Ohno and how much it means to him when Ohno approves of him. And Ohno talks about Jun and it's so...he respects him so much, he's so impressed with who Jun is, who he has become, and he's moved by Jun's warmth and gentleness. Plus he likes to fuck with him. Ohno fucks with Jun and totally gets away with it. He makes Jun laugh.
This is off the top of my head, too. I'm not a real fan of Ohno/Jun. There were times when Jun touching Ohno seemed to really get to Nino and I felt bad for Nino (obviously, Nino is a bit of a nutcase, and he makes up for his issues by inappropriately touching Jun on concert tours). I think that Ohno and Jun love each other but I think Jun had a point: They don't have a ton of stuff in common and they probably really WOULDN'T be friends if it hadn't been for Arashi. I think they would have NEEDED to be in Arashi (whereas, say, Nino and Sho would have got along no matter what) to come together. And despite all this I can write Ohno/Jun that doesn't involve making Nino a jerk and Jun the perfect man.
SO STOP IT. You'll make me utterly, utterly hate your pairing and I don't want to hate any Arashi/Arashi pairing.
PS. I don't object to Second-Generation Arashi but speaking as a woman with four kids whom I love and enjoy: YOU DON'T NEED A CHILD TO BE A REAL FAMILY/A PERFECT FAMILY. Wanting kids is one thing--Sho would want children no matter what his sexual orientation because that is who Sho is.
ETA: I feel like changing out icons but I hate looking for them. If you want to throw icons at me, please do.
ETA2: I just finally got into my e-mail. Do you know who is totally awesome? ZEL. a;lsdkfja;dfj OMG I LOVE HER FOREVER. I LOVE HER LIKE BURNING.
I posted a comment fic over at
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In other Arashi news: New single. I'm tempted but I'm not going to shell out for the limited edition until I know if I like both songs.
Random stuff: The contest at
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
Also: The Road Trip AU. ♥♥♥ One day it shall be posted and that day shall be AWESOME.
Stripper Pole: I...I just can't post it when I'm so unhappy with the transition. It's written but I wrote it in two parts, the smut first and then the lead in. Hence my trouble joining them. I want to get it out of my head but I know that my 'i don't like it' is actually factual and not just my usual 'i don't like it' that I feel for my own work.
Finally: I have a fic rant.
I am really tempted to name names. I'm not going to but I am REALLY TEMPTED. Besides, you should be able to figure it out.
I don't mind OCs. I don't even mind Arashi marrying girls. I do mind if you create an OC for the sole purpose of getting yourself into your favorite's pants. MALE or female. PS. This includes killing off a character and replacing them with your OC. ESPECIALLY this. Especially this if you're trying to pretend that maybe your OC is the dead member. Jesus.
But far worse, in my opinion, is 'character' bashing. Look, if the best version of Ohno/Jun you can write involves making Nino a total jerk, Jun a total saint, and Ohno as uncaring about Nino's feelings because he loves Jun better, then you are NOT DOING YOUR PAIRING A FAVOR. You are saying Ohno/Jun can't work unless Nino is jerk.
It pisses me off that people would trash the very real love that every member of Arashi has for every other member.
But aside from that (and I say 'aside' but seriously, it's sort of rage inducing for me): When you base your fic off of 'this person is a jerk, therefore my favorite should have everything he wants' you are ignoring all the awesome about your pairing of choice. Let's go back to Ohno/Jun:
You know what is awesome about Ohno and Jun's relationship? Jun is gentle with Ohno in a way that he isn't with the others. Jun will whack at Ohno, sure, but he also touches him sweetly, taking his hand, putting his hands on his shoulders, leaning into him. You can see how much love and respect Jun has for Ohno and how much it means to him when Ohno approves of him. And Ohno talks about Jun and it's so...he respects him so much, he's so impressed with who Jun is, who he has become, and he's moved by Jun's warmth and gentleness. Plus he likes to fuck with him. Ohno fucks with Jun and totally gets away with it. He makes Jun laugh.
This is off the top of my head, too. I'm not a real fan of Ohno/Jun. There were times when Jun touching Ohno seemed to really get to Nino and I felt bad for Nino (obviously, Nino is a bit of a nutcase, and he makes up for his issues by inappropriately touching Jun on concert tours). I think that Ohno and Jun love each other but I think Jun had a point: They don't have a ton of stuff in common and they probably really WOULDN'T be friends if it hadn't been for Arashi. I think they would have NEEDED to be in Arashi (whereas, say, Nino and Sho would have got along no matter what) to come together. And despite all this I can write Ohno/Jun that doesn't involve making Nino a jerk and Jun the perfect man.
SO STOP IT. You'll make me utterly, utterly hate your pairing and I don't want to hate any Arashi/Arashi pairing.
PS. I don't object to Second-Generation Arashi but speaking as a woman with four kids whom I love and enjoy: YOU DON'T NEED A CHILD TO BE A REAL FAMILY/A PERFECT FAMILY. Wanting kids is one thing--Sho would want children no matter what his sexual orientation because that is who Sho is.
ETA: I feel like changing out icons but I hate looking for them. If you want to throw icons at me, please do.
ETA2: I just finally got into my e-mail. Do you know who is totally awesome? ZEL. a;lsdkfja;dfj OMG I LOVE HER FOREVER. I LOVE HER LIKE BURNING.
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Date: 2009-04-06 05:42 am (UTC)I know what fic(s) you refer to. And I have refused to read it. Actually, just seeing it posted irritates me to know end and makes me just as inflamed.
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Date: 2009-04-06 05:57 am (UTC)RIGHT! Which makes me wonder (under the fangirl glee, of course) exactly how real it all is, you know? Or if it's just the two youngest fighting for the oldest's attention?
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Date: 2009-04-08 05:27 am (UTC)BUT I HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS.
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Date: 2009-04-08 02:30 pm (UTC)Would love to hear what they are! Mine tend to vary anywhere between "OMGTRULUV and "RIN BE REALISTIC!"
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Date: 2009-04-08 08:01 pm (UTC)But the jealousy thing is real because it's never really played up the way that most fanservice is.
Nino is only ever jealous of Jun and that's got a lot to do with the way that they each relate to Ohno. They both want similar things from Ohno--to be physically close to him, to have him pay attention to them, they look up to him (no, really, they do!) and want him to think they're special--and his approval and affection soothes their needs for reassurance (Jun used to be SO hard on himself, unsure of himself and Nino's childhood was...well, I think we can say it was a little lonely).
The main problem is that Jun and Nino are similar enough to EACH OTHER that it triggers Nino's issues a little. They both act in the tsukkomi and the tsundere roles of the group (Nino is more tsukkomi, Jun is more tsundere but they can do both) and they're nearly the same age--it's just a few months between them and they're right at the 'group baby' position.
Ohno does touch them both, indulges them both. He relates to them differently--Jun is 'aniki' and Nino is like a partner in crime--and obviously Nino knows that Ohno isn't going to shut him out (Ohno even said on interview once that you have to slap Nino away every now and again to keep him interested) and he knows that Ohno does relate to them all differently, but that doesn't help Nino who has that gamer mentality--he likes to be GOOD at what he does and he loves to touch the people he loves so I think it would be easy for him to feel possessive. Especially when you consider the fact that what Nino wants from Aiba and from Sho is different from the things Jun wants from them...and Ohno wants to spend time ON HIS OWN. He's a bit of a limited resources, at times, because he needs his space. It could easily feel, to Nino, like he's in a competition for Ohno.
Jun, however, does not have Nino's issues. He either backs down or he mocks Nino (Jun mocks Nino to show his love--screw off, haters who think Jun is malicious about it). It really does seem to me that when Nino DOES go hissy-faced about it (which isn't very often anymore) he and Jun spend time playing poke-each-other-with-a-stick type games and touching each other. I do think it's their way of reconnecting when Nino gets retarded on the Ohno thing.
Long and rambling! I need to go pick up my childrens from school. Darn childrens, making me rush.
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Date: 2009-04-08 08:32 pm (UTC)I so need this interview.
I have noticed, about now in comparison to say DnA era Arashi, that Jun and Nino (and the rest of Arashi) are far more mature in their regards to each other and those jealousies that used to percolate aren't there anymore.
The part of it all (besides the fact that they didn't play up the jealousy and that appears genuine) that I find convincing is that the cameras (or editors)on their shows actually actively avoid filming Ohmiya when they're being too Ohmiya.
Why bother if that's what you want to play up?
it's all a bit of a mind fuck sometimes. But I guess then if you keep us thinking about it, we're not off contemplated Kat-tun.