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THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH FANDOM OHMIYA.

The post, the replies. This is part of why I never go to that comm any more.

(The other part is the fic. Oh. My. God.)

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Date: 2011-06-03 09:52 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2011-06-04 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
I KNOW. I honestly sat there for a moment going '...not REALLY' at it.

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Date: 2011-06-03 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tangiblewhimsy.livejournal.com
I...what? I don't even.... *takes deep breath*

The text that was posted with that picture was beyond codependent. It was passive-aggressive and manipulative. That's not how you talk to someone you're in love with, not if you're right in the head. And that's certainly not how you apologize. For all of the times the words "I'm sorry" showed up in that word-vomit it all came off as "YOU'RE THE ONE IN THE WRONG, SORRY I'M JUST TRYING TO LOVE AND APPRECIATE YOU, DICK." Back-handed is the term that comes to mind!

And the comments. I...have no comment. I mean, I do, but there's no reason to go there. Except Jesus H Christ, man.

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Date: 2011-06-04 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
This. And it's so co-dependent and passive-aggressive and it is SO NOT NINO.

I posted this in my journal so that I would not comment there. Christ on a cracker.

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Date: 2011-06-03 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gimmick-game.livejournal.com
Most of what gets posted there anymore makes me want to dig my eyes out with grapefruit spoons so I tend to just...scroll on by.

The lack of a whole lot of fodder for Ohmiya as of late (read: past few years, really) has a lot of the...crazier...fans grasping for straws and posting some of the most ridiculous shit EVER.

EDIT: After thinking about it, I've come to the conclusion that Stephanie Meyer has permanently ruined 9/10ths of the younger generation (and a good chunk of the older generation) as well. Bitch needs to be lynched.
Edited Date: 2011-06-04 01:40 am (UTC)

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Date: 2011-06-04 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
I usually avoid it, actually, but I drop in every now and again just in the hopes of there being something I want.

See--and the thing about Ohmiya is that they still DO have moments. They're not all over each other but that intense infatuation can only last so long. But they still have moments in their shows and hell, right up until Ohno hit thirty they had Wink Up. I wish I could blame Smeyer but I can't. Fandom was doing this before Twilight.

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Date: 2011-06-03 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beckerbell.livejournal.com
Have I ever told you that I looooooove yoooooou? Because that right there is so much of what drove me away from Ohmiya in fandom. :<

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Date: 2011-06-04 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
I love YOU! Ohmiya doesn't need to bash Jun/Aiba/Sho/Everybody else on Earth to ruin the pairing! They can do it all by themselves! T___T

It's so awful. Don't they realize that Ohno is evil? That Nino is his minion? No?

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Date: 2011-06-03 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babyrubysoho.livejournal.com
It's certainly true you have to sift through a lot of... questionable material to find anything decent these days! Seems I can't be pried away from Ohmiya in fandom though, which is why I go direct to my favourite authors' journals to get my fix (and here I am XD).

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Date: 2011-06-04 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
Ohmiya, I can't quit you! XD I know the feeling. I love them despite the fandom. It's like JunToshi--so much bad to get through before you find the good! I just wish there was less sorting. Alas.

And thank you! I'm super happy I could be somebody able to supply a fix!

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Date: 2011-06-04 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeyporridge.livejournal.com
I... have mostly been ignoring the parts of fandom that are not part of my flist (and ofc people I stalk. like you.) but this makes me feel like crying and there's nothing I could even say about it. D:

Just. Fuck. D:

/creeper

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Date: 2011-06-04 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
I like being stalked!

I mostly ignore them, too, but every now and again I live in hope and drop in. And I was all 'yay?!' and then it was NOT YAY.

I think 'fuck' sums it up pretty nicely, though!

/spaz

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Date: 2011-06-04 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aishoni.livejournal.com
not a big ohmiya fan but that version of nino would annoy the heck out of me

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Date: 2011-06-04 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
EXACTLY. This Nino would be an annoying bitch and I would want to smack him endlessly. It's like when JunToshi ruins Jun and makes him weepy. No, damn it! He hits shit! (But not abusively, Ohmiya, NOT ABUSIVELY.)

/icon matching

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Date: 2011-06-04 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] araanaz9.livejournal.com
Thank you. I was so disturbed when I saw that post. I'm so glad I'm not the only one.

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Date: 2011-06-04 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
I'm glad that I'm not the only one! The post was bad enough but then there were the comments. I backed away slowly until it was safe and then ran here.

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Date: 2011-06-04 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flange5.livejournal.com
God, yes. I saw that too and at first I was just confused because do these people even watch Arashi to think that that is a plausible dynamic? Really?

*sneaks back into hiding*

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Date: 2011-06-04 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
ICON LOVE.

And also: BRAIN TWIN. When I read the comments all I could think was 'have they WATCHED Nino in anything that was not a drama?' and 'have they read even one interview? EVER?'. It's just. SO not Nino. And Ohno--holy hell, Ohno ate deep fried egg shells. That boy can put up with anything. Nino could surgically attach himself to Ohno and Ohno would put up with it. And then he'd make Nino go fishing and shit because hell NO he is not missing his chance to get out there.

*creepers after you like a mouth breather*

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Date: 2011-06-04 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flange5.livejournal.com
Oh lord, you know what? you made this so much better by reminding me of the Garbage Chips episode.

But really, that particular type of fangirl crazy would stamp the exact same template onto every relationship, regardless of fandom--Sherlock, Kamen Rider, anything. Clearly, they're working out something else, and slapped Ohmiya faces and names on it :/

You know, I am generally endlessly willing to be amused by fandom in all its glorious dysfunctions, but . . . geh. I have no patience for this crap. And I know that when I feel better, I'll have a sense of humor again, but I am so not there. :P

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Date: 2011-06-04 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
Garbage chips makes everything better! Seriously, they only fed them on tv. When is the last time you saw them drink 11 year old butter?

I also have a feeling that you are right about the crazy. NOT EVEN TENDOU, DAMN IT.

*patpat* I will be waiting for you when you are there again! With open, open arms. ♥

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Date: 2011-06-04 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flange5.livejournal.com
11 year old butter? WAs that at the abandoned amusement park, or have I missed something evilly fantastic?? MUST SEE.

&hearts

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Date: 2011-06-04 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
It might have been the beer that was that old. But they had butter at one of those abandoned places.

Oh, Arashi. Look at how uppity you've gotten now that you can go to foreign countries and be fed while not on tv! You don't go to abandoned places and eat old food anymore. HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN YOUR ROOTS?

Or just got nicer managers?

XD Honestly, I love talking about Arashi. Because you know what? Even today they would eat the old food. They would whine and bitch and laugh and try to make somebody else do it but they would do it. And smile and mean it.

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Date: 2011-06-04 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flange5.livejournal.com
I should rewatch both of those episodes. They make me so squeeful&hearts The whining, the whimpering, the giggles and the the evil they play on each other even knowing that the staff has already loaded plenty on them.

I think they got nicer managers and moved to prime time ^^; I'm looking forward to maybe a late show again sometime in the distant future, where there's not quite so much interference by 17 guests ^^;

And they would do it. The would totally drink the miso sour, blend the crazy caviar-foie gras-truffle shake and drink it, all the while cursing their luck at janken and trying to shove the other members higher up in line to experience the horror.

I realize that this is probably the result of intense and repeated adolescent trauma as Juniors, but dammit, it's awesome and lovable and never gets old.

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Date: 2011-06-04 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
Their old stuff is still pretty golden. I do miss their late-night slot. I miss Ogura and smelly food and racy comments about porn and nipple-showing.

Our boyband, they are a marvelous, wonderful thing--a good group of people who love us very much.

(It is. Johnny scarred them for our entertainment and we know this and yet...and YET. How can we live without Sho's girly, girly shrieking?)

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Date: 2011-06-04 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackines.livejournal.com
I wouldn't even see it if you didn't point it out. It's just... annoying? I don't know. I doesn't make me angry or anything, just disappointed maybe? Because it's so NOT Ohmiya it hurts and it's kind of sad that supposedly Ohmiya fans don't see it.

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Date: 2011-06-04 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
It doesn't make me angry either. Just. Dumbfounded. As you say, it's so NOT Ohmiya and they don't see it. Such a large chunk of the Ohmiya fandom seems to share the idea that this is right and it makes me sad because Ohmiya have so much fun together, they are sly, plotting little punks together as well as being snugglebunnies. I am sad for them that they are missing out.

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Date: 2011-06-04 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lianne29.livejournal.com
That is not Nino. I think this is because of all the bad fics that characterize Ohmiya as such (with Nino being this... I really don't have a word for it)

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Date: 2011-06-07 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
I know. It's awful. They dont' even it see it and it's just amazing. And terrible.

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Date: 2011-06-04 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfiepike.livejournal.com
lolololol

i'm imagining the arashi/twilight crossover now where nino moves in with matsuken when his mom wants to uproot and travel and nino's like, f you, i'll just game more!!!

but then he meets MYSTERIOUS VAMPIRE OHNO, who always has that vaguely glazed look in his eyes, like he's not really paying attention to anything
ugh, his cheeks, so cute!! and nino just...follows him back to the vampire mansion and has his way with him, much to ohno's pleased surprise!

nino: "so, this vampire thing: i think it could be great."
ohno: "oh! okay. well, i'm going to go fishing, so...."
nino: "TURN ME FIRST, UGH."

jun would be the sparkly doctor vampire, which leads to really amazing thoughts of him turning sickly ohno into a vampire to save his life, oh gosh.

SHO WOULD BE THE VAMPIRE WHO IS PSYCHIC AND DRAWS OUT THE FUTURE!!!
"WHAT'S THAT, SHO-CHAN? IT LOOKS LIKE.... A MARSHMALLOW IN A SEXY MAGAZINE? oh, oh, it's nino in danger, i see."

and aiba would be another vampire I GUESS - maybe he and sho could be adorably destined or something. i forget what all their powers are now. why yes i have seen all the twilight movies.

Image

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Date: 2011-06-07 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
Somewhere I actually have the beginning of some actual Vampire!Arashi fic.

But I LOVE YOU SO HARD. Vampire!Sho drawing the future!

Aiba: I have no clue what that is.

Jun: ...potato?

Ohno: *fails to comprehend goings on*


Nino: *tied up to a post at some sinister locale* WTF, WHY IS NOBODY HELPING ME?

Oguri Shun: ...I thought Ohno was going to come save you and then Jun-kun would come with him.

Inoue Mao: Wait, which one draws the future?


Sho: *some three hours post drawing* Look, I SEE THE FUTURE. I AM TELLING YOU--THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.


MatsuKen: *at home* Nino? Dinner is ready!

MatsuKen: ...Nino?

MatsuKen: Fine, if you want to game instead of eat, I'll eat it all.


Nino: *two days later* WTF.


Vampire!Mansion: *covered in drawings*

Jun: Tower of London?

Aiba: ...ramen?

Sho: I think it's a panda?

Ohno: *is fishing*


And then I don't know how to end it. You think I can drag it on for three more posts? AND WHICH ONE IS THE BEAR-WRESTLER?

PS. Gif=love.

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Date: 2011-06-08 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfiepike.livejournal.com
um, one of them wrestles bears???? i don't know, but chinen should be dakota fanning. CHINEN OR THAT ADORABLE 6 YEAR OLD, what is her name. i don't remember. or it could be chinen. XD

BY ALL MEANS, DRAG THIS ON FOR MORE ENTRIES. :D :D :D

Image

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Date: 2011-06-08 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
THE CUTE KID ON THE SHOW, YES.

Also: Yes! Allie has read the books and loved them (nooooo my baaaaaaaaaaaaby!) and so I know how each of them was turned. Emmett was wrestling a bear. As I said to Becky 'It's like Carlisle looked at him and said 'this kid was wrestling a BEAR? Why would I NOT save this kid? What COULDN'T I do with a bear wrestler! *saves*'

;lasdkf;lsdk WHAT IS MY LIFE WHAT? It'll have to wait until after the Fest. DDD:

oh gosh, what is my life, what are my choices.

Date: 2011-06-08 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfiepike.livejournal.com
"So...does a person have to be dying to be turned into a vampire?" Nino asked, feigning nonchalance as he got another six kills in high-definition surround-sound. The Matsumoto family seriously had the most amazing theater system - perfect for gaming.

Ohno seemed barely aware of the question, let alone the fact that Nino was practically sitting in his lap, Nino's intense controller movements bringing him closer and closer; Ohno was caught up in something on his phone.

"Oh-chan, seriously," Nino griped.

"What? Oh, that's just Jun-kun. He says people should always have a chance to live," Ohno said, sounding like he was reciting something he'd heard often - which, knowing Jun, Nino bet he had.

Nino leveled up, and killed fourteen more zombies in six seconds. "What are you even looking at?" He wasn't really complaining about Ohno not paying his full attention to Nino, but Nino knew enough of himself and Ohno to know that while he was perfectly capable of playing a game and carrying on a conversation, Ohno was very - tunnel-vision. Nino would like a little bit of his attention, at least.

"Looking up the tides for next week. Sho-kun said we're skipping school because it's supposed to be sunny."

"So you're going to glitter some fish to death," Nino grumbled. Why did Ohno have to love the one hobby that Nino could definitely, positively not enjoy.

He played without comment for a few more minutes, the air filled with the sounds of zombie grunts and machinegun fire. Ohno's leg was cold against him, even through their layers.

He paused, the sudden silence startling Ohno into looking up.

"So why did he turn you?" Nino asked. "What the hell happened to you that - that Matsumoto-san would turn you?"

Ohno stared at him, and blinked, his face unmoving, his mouth open just a bit. He lifted his hand to Nino's cheek, then pushed Nino's hair behind his ear. He looked down, spotted Nino's hand resting on his leg, and put his hand around it, his fingers pressing between Nino's on the controller. "I was sick," he said, "and Jun-kun saved me. He - he can resist feeding where most of us can't, so he saved me."

Ohno was dying, he knew he was. He knew it more than he had ever known anything, which may not mean much; all he'd ever known was singing, dancing, and clay. But as his stomach rejected everything the nurses offered him, yet he continued to sweat and shiver, to ache in every way - he knew he was dying.

A nurse offered him water, and he let her pour it slowly into his mouth; he hoped he could keep it down.

He slept, fitfully, and with strange fever-dreams: his mother begging him to run the family business - what business? - his sister scolding him for getting his feet dirty, so dirty in clay, but his feet were made of clay, his whole body was turning into clay -

Someone shook him awake, gently, and said his name. "Ohno-san," they said, "Ohno-san, I'm going to save you. This will - it will hurt, but. It will save you, in its way."

He sounded like they were crying. Ohno wanted to tell him not to cry, because he always cried when someone cried around him, he couldn't help it, it was like some weird reaction to growing up with a sister who knew that two children crying would definitely get them out of chores long enough to buy candy.

Ohno didn't get a chance to say anything, though, before he was held down, held down and something sliding into his neck, the pressure sudden and intense, the pain concentrated and bright and then blooming outwards, out into everything in his body, changing him, twisting him up inside and then out. It lasted forever, it would never end - but then it did, his heart racing, his skin already losing heat, and the doctor - Matsumoto - was there, holding out his hand. "Come with me, Ohno-san," the doctor said. "We'll figure this out together."


"Oh-chan," Nino said, his voice soft, and Ohno shook his head. Nino flexed his hand under Ohno's but couldn't break free enough to let go of the controller. "Oh-chan, let go for a minute."

Ohno shook his head again, this time as if he were waking up. He released of Nino's hand, but Nino just took Ohno's back. He held Ohno's cold hand tightly in both of his, and curled up around Ohno's side, and didn't let go.

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Date: 2011-06-07 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fog-dancer.livejournal.com
I think you misunderstood. But it's okay. Reading all those interviews probably made you dizzy, because Nino obviously is a fourteen year old girl in her first relationship. Why some people have the notion that Nino is a grown male or should behave like one is beyond me. And all the interviews to the contrary are just playing it up for the press.

If you want to know how real people are in real relationships, you should read some more manga. Seriously. Live a little less. It will greatly improve your fandom experience.


(This comment was sponsored by sarcasm'r'us. Similarity to real opinion is purely coincidental.)

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Date: 2011-06-07 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
My god, it's like you're full of stars!

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Date: 2011-06-07 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fog-dancer.livejournal.com
It's the first comment high. It'll wane off eventually.

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Date: 2011-06-07 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
I see, I see. And then I'll discover you're full of nothing but stuffing and lies?

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Date: 2011-06-07 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fog-dancer.livejournal.com
Yupp. And there is no refund.

*evilsnigger*

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Date: 2011-07-03 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefortysecond.livejournal.com
(um yes I am a longtime stalker how did you guess -_-;;)

Whenever I see you in random places I go "Oh!" and start combing through your recent entries to see if you've written anything new because. Well. Actually because I'm pathetic and am not a fan of adding people who probably are too busy to add me back.

But it occurs to me that you should probably know that when people have their entries linked to by other people in another entry, they get a notification for it. So even though you didn't comment there, the author of the post knows that you have linked to it here. And since I can see the post, she can see the post. Unless she had that kind of notification turned off, which I doubt, because I've seen this one around and she's kind of an attention whore.

Um, um, yeah, so just thought I'd give you a friendly month-late head up -_-;;;

And by the way, about the post itself, THIS SFM.

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Date: 2011-07-03 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-ciircee.livejournal.com
Hello, longtime stalker! It's nice to meet you! Thank you for choosing me! ♥

I don't think this is the sort of link that tracks--I didn't use the 'share' button, I just wrote the a href= bit myself. I don't know about options to turn that on or off, though I suppose I could check, but I do know that when people do it to my stuff (like at [livejournal.com profile] tomomichi's) I never know about it.

Mostly I don't care if anybody knows or causes drama. I'm old. *leader-like pout* But I appreciate the head's up. If things get dumb, I'll lock down. *salutes* Thank you!

THIS SFM

You are a good and worthy lurker! Give me a propmt (word, picture, song, three pages of detailed notes) and a character (or pairing, whatever) and I will write you a drabble (really, a drabble! Something short!)

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Date: 2011-07-03 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thefortysecond.livejournal.com
Oh weird... I only got a pingback notification once, I just figured that whenever an entry of yours is mentioned outside your journal you get a pingback. Well, then we can always hope that she just never noticed! It would be a pity if you had to lock down, since I've noticed that a lot of your stuff is folded into regular entries. And we'd miss all the fun :(

Oooh I have been found worthy! Well then I shall not waste my wish: I don't know if you've been reading the other comments on [livejournal.com profile] elfiepike's prompt entry, but I've had an unholy craving for Aiba/Yonekura Ryoko lately. And if you don't do het, then Aiba/anyone makes me happy. Maybe involving blindfolds, or food kinks :3

And well, if you ever feel the need to expand your f-list, I'm not as creepy as I come across in comments, I swear! *runs off to work*
Edited Date: 2011-07-03 01:31 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2012-01-31 07:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harunomasu.livejournal.com
I was led to here by someone who read my recent post about why I can't like Ohmiya (or Sakuraiba) as pairings. That's because the fans ruined it for me. Getting hateful messages didn't help either.

I see you like Ohmiya but I'm glad to know that you're a sane fan who know the difference between reality and imagination. There are fans out there who couldn't detach themselves from imaginary world in which Ohmiya is married for real and that Juntoshi or Matsumiya is stupid and that Jun should leave Arashi so he couldn't break Ohmiya.

Thanks for the link. Now I have even more reasons to hate canon pairings. Sorry, Ohmiya, I want to like you but your fans make me grossed out on you.

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